Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/24/2004 01:15 PM House JUD

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HB 517 - SECURITY ACCOUNT BENEFICIARY DESIGNATION                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0425                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  517,  "An   Act  relating  to  registration  in                                                               
beneficiary form of certain  security accounts, including certain                                                               
reinvestment, investment management, and custody accounts."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON,  speaking as  the  chair  of the  House                                                               
Labor  and  Commerce  Standing  Committee,  sponsor  of  HB  517,                                                               
relayed that  the bill  will permit  an investment  management or                                                               
custody account  with a trust company,  or a trust division  of a                                                               
bank with  trust powers, to  have a beneficiary  designation take                                                               
effect  upon  the  death  of  the  owner.    Under  current  law,                                                               
securities   and   brokerage   accounts  may   have   beneficiary                                                               
designations take effect upon the  death of the owner pursuant to                                                               
the   Uniform   Transfer-On-Death  Security   Registration   Act.                                                               
However,  the current  definition  in  Alaska statutes  regarding                                                               
security  accounts  is not  broad  enough  to include  investment                                                               
management  or  custody accounts,  which  are  generally used  by                                                               
trust departments.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON relayed that HB  517 comes at the request                                                               
of Wells  Fargo and will allow  all of "these products"  to avoid                                                               
probate   by  providing   statutory   authorization   to  use   a                                                               
beneficiary designation.   The  bill will  also put  banks' trust                                                               
departments  on  an equal  footing  with  brokerage firms.    The                                                               
problem cannot  be solved other  than by statute, he  opined, and                                                               
noted  that several  states have  enacted similar  legislation in                                                               
the  last   three  years,  including  California,   Idaho,  Iowa,                                                               
Minnesota, and  Washington.  He  mentioned that  members' packets                                                               
contain a letter of support from Wells Fargo.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0580                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARIBETH CONWAY,  Trust Manager, Wells Fargo,  offered her belief                                                               
that  HB 517  is a  simple technical  change to  Alaska's current                                                               
transfer  on death  (TOD) law.    Current Alaska  law, which  was                                                               
initially drafted  as a  uniform state  law, focuses  on accounts                                                               
offered by  brokerages and  other financial  institutions because                                                               
it is  generally assumed  that bank  accounts fall  under another                                                               
statute.   However, banks' trust departments  and trust companies                                                               
do have investment  management and custody accounts  that are not                                                               
included  in   the  current  statutory  definition   of  security                                                               
accounts.   Consequently,  security  and  brokerage accounts  can                                                               
have a  specified beneficiary designation that  takes effect upon                                                               
the death  of the owner  - the form used  is very similar  to the                                                               
beneficiary designation form used  for life insurance policies or                                                               
individual retirement  accounts (IRAs)  - allowing probate  to be                                                               
avoided, but investment management  accounts and custody accounts                                                               
offered by banks do not yet have this flexibility.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CONWAY remarked  that customers  of  banks, however,  expect                                                               
that investment  management accounts  and custody  accounts would                                                               
be  handled the  same  way  as similar  accounts  are treated  in                                                               
brokerage firms, and  HB 517 would, in fact,  make this possible.                                                               
Without passage  of the bill, investment  management accounts and                                                               
custody  accounts, whether  in  a  trust company  or  in a  trust                                                               
division of  a bank,  must go  through probate.   House  Bill 517                                                               
allows  for very  simple treatment  of beneficiary  designations,                                                               
clarifies the definition  of security account, and  puts the same                                                               
types of  accounts held in  different companies on  equal footing                                                               
with regard  to transfers on  death.  She mentioned  that similar                                                               
changes  have recently  been enacted  in other  states, that  the                                                               
changes  appear to  be  non-controversial, and  that  no one  has                                                               
experienced problems  with the changes.   For these  reasons, she                                                               
remarked, Wells  Fargo would  appreciate the  committee's support                                                               
in passing HB 517.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY,  in response  to questions, relayed  that it  is very                                                               
common  for individuals  to have  investment management  accounts                                                               
through Wells Fargo's trust department  even though such accounts                                                               
are not specifically  trust accounts; the same can be  done via a                                                               
trust company,  and these accounts  are similar to ones  that can                                                               
be arranged  through brokerage firms, which  currently have forms                                                               
that  allow  for beneficiary  designations  to  take effect  upon                                                               
death of the account owners.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0901                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG turned  attention to AS 13.33.310(b)(3),                                                               
which uses the term "LDPS."  He asked what "LDPS" stands for.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY said she was not sure.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked whether the bill "just puts bank-                                                                
managed  accounts  on  the   same  footing  as  brokerage-managed                                                               
accounts."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CONWAY  said  that  is  correct.   In  response  to  another                                                               
question, she  offered her  recollection that  the model  Act was                                                               
adopted in whole, for the most part, in Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG turned attention to  page 2, lines 8 and                                                               
20, and asked what would be considered "cash equivalents".                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY offered as an example a money market investment fund.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE, after  ascertaining that  no one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 517.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON,  in response  to a  question, reiterated                                                               
his earlier comments regarding the perceived need for the bill.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA noted  that the  bill is  only a  definition                                                               
section.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG offered that  it is a definition section                                                               
for  the  Uniform  Transfer-On-Death Security  Registration  Act,                                                               
which allows one to simplify a  transfer at the time of death and                                                               
avoid  probate  by setting  up  either  a  "pay on  death  (POD)"                                                               
account or  a "transfer  on death (TOD)"  account.   He mentioned                                                               
that  a POD  usually pertains  to  money, whereas  a TOD  usually                                                               
pertains  to  securities.    Such accounts  are  simple  ways  of                                                               
ensuring that upon the death of  the owner, the assets are passed                                                               
on  to the  beneficiary  or beneficiaries  without  the need  for                                                               
probate.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1297                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA moved to report  HB 517 out of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
[note].  There  being no objection, HB 517 was  reported from the                                                               
House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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